S4E43 Divestment, Decentering, and 4B Movement Conversations w/o causing harm

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Speaker 1 (0s): Okay, bows and bow ties. So look, it's been a minute since I've done a regular live from home, but I just wanted to continue on with my thoughts. I couldn't finish this morning. I wanted to talk about these, the Decentering and the Divestment in the four B movement. Okay? So I just wanna put up here what a manifesto is. It's a public declaration, or pol, let's try this again.

It's a public declaration of policy. And Aimes, especially one issued before an election by a political party or candidate, right? That's kind of like what you'll see, like in one of the definitions. But I wrote down this one today. Let me take this off. A public declaration of principles, intentions, goals issued by a group or individual inspired to invoke a change. A bold statement like a rallying cry or call to arms. Now, I generally don't have an issue with a manifesto, okay?

And, but what I, Hey, you know, I'm on this live, see, my kids are doing too much. Okay? Anyway, so my point is, I don't typically have an issue with a manifesto until it becomes an issue, right? Because you can have public declarations or whatever that are inspiring and all kinds of stuff. But my concern with this divesting in Decentering and the four B movement is the way our climate is today.

We typically take something and then it's been co-opted. It's kind of like the old feminism. It originally started off, 'cause you know, there's four waves, or is there five I? think there's four waves. And it started off basically just saying like, Hey, we want equality. We want the right to vote. You had women's suffrage, you had all these things, right? And then it morphed into some other stuff. I don't have my notes, but you know, it morphed into more on the lines of I, think civil rights. And then, then there's some other things that came with it. But see, when I look at this whole Divestment and Decentering and the four B movement, I feel like because we have, we have this gender war that I was in denial about like about four or five years ago.

What is that noise? Well, that's my microwave doing that anyway, so I feel like because we have this crazy gender war going on, right? I'm like, okay, I feel like there's so much built up anger and hurt, and there's a little bit of psycho ness going on. What's happening is what is meant for good turns out to be not so good. So when I was looked, writing down a couple of quick notes, I didn't have a whole lot of time.

I wrote down a couple of notes, and earlier this morning I talked about di the Divestment movement. And so if you look like me, you know, that's basically where people were removing their preference or, or their preference for dating men who looked like me, And. they were opening up their options, but the way it was coming off was they were only dating other people and not men who, who looked like me.

Do you understand the nuance? Oh my gosh, guys, I'm literally live. So I'm trying to get my kids to be quiet. So this is the thing, the the, the whole purpose originally with, from my understanding with the whole Divestment thing, was to basically open your options. But you had a bunch of women who were frustrated and angry who looked like me. It was like, don't date black men. Don't marry black men or whatever, right?

Which, and you think about it was kind of like this precursor to the four B movement. So then you get this whole Decentering men, and I thought it was interesting because they're talking about Decentering men, but all the reasons that they were talking about Decentering men, they were hyper-focused on men. So it was almost like an oxymoron. Decent men, because men, men, men, men, men, men and men and men. I'm like, okay, hold on a second, I'm gonna have to say something.

Okay, I'm back. So then you, you got a whole bunch of people who are saying, and they're still saying, so the sentiment, which on the surface is actually good, right? They're saying, look, you're not going to just center men in your lives, right? So ideally what that I think that's supposed to mean is, Hey, focus on yourself and do other things and don't make men your entire reason for your existence. But what I hear people saying is, decent men, because men are this and men are that.

And, and you can learn how to fix your own stuff. And it was, I'm like, mm, it it, it's not sounding like, hey, decent men because you want to take time to make sure that you are grounded, that you're spiritually grounded, that you're emotionally grounded, that you're financially grounded, that you figure out who you are and who you wanna be and what you wanna achieve. There's been a few who may have said those things, but I'm not hearing a lot of that. I'm hearing a lot of like decenter because now I'm inserting my opinion here.

It was like, I'm mad all these men ain't this and I'm making money. And, and when I listen to them, they are finding comfort in their money. They're finding comfort. And so there's something to be said for financial security, but I hear a lot of my money, my money in, in, in these activities. And I'm like, okay, well what? There's, there's multiple things happening here from what I think I'm hearing.

It sounds like, you know, what is it light, right? Why do I look so orange? Oh my goodness, I look like 45. So much of what I'm hearing when I hear these women like, well, we've got jobs and we've got this. I'm like, okay, but what it sounds like it's, it sounds more like what I'm hearing is if you wanna be part of this Decentering movement, this Divestment movement, right?

You need to have money. It's, it sounds a little exclusionary actually, because when you listen to what's being said, you need to hear more of the meat of it. And I'm hearing a lot of the material, I've had more money than I've ever had, and I don't need a man for this. And I have a house and it's like all these material things and that's great. But what about the woman who's going through whatever she's going through, right? And who doesn't have a lot of money? Maybe she had a baby early on, who knows. Maybe she was forced to take care of her family at a young age for a variety of reasons and didn't get a chance to pursue her hopes, her dreams, her passions, her education, right?

And so when I hear these women hyper-focused on Decentering men, I'm not, it's not sounding inclusive of other women. Number one, it sounds like you need to have money because much of their conversation is centered around their money, their homes, whatever. It's not much of what I hear about the person, the personal growth. Okay? I wanna make this clear. And the very thing that they say they wanna decenter themselves from much of their conversation is all about the men.

I have a comment. Oh, hey, what's up Derek? And so I'm like, alright, so like I said, we started off with the Divestment, then it went to Decentering, and now my new fave before B movement, so this was Popularizer, started in Korea, South Korea in 2019. Lemme write my, get my notes here. And basically what they're advocating is no marriage to men, no sex with men, no babies with men and no dating or boyfriends with men. And so, and their whole purpose, sorry, what did I write down here?

You know, I'm getting old, I'm getting old. Okay, hold on a second. Let me get my line together. Their whole purpose for this was they want to oppose the state. Well, the, the South Korean country, right? So the state or nation state, they wanna oppose the state's view of a woman's body being only useful to the state. The their reproduction is used for securing the state's future. Now, when you think about what's going on in Korea, and, and, and to some extent China, you're seeing a large decrease in the population, right?

Women are fed up. They're fed up. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Like that's all I hear for the four B movement, right? It's a little bit of a throwback to Deborah Cox. So what, what you're, what you're seeing now is that there's a bunch of women who are frustrated with the state, and now it's starting to make its way over here into United States, right? And I'm sure in other places of the world, but I'm, I'm trying to, I'm trying to lend a level of specificity here to the United States, and even more specific to women who look like me.

But it's not just women who look like me. So now we, we've, we've gone from Divestment, from black men to Decentering men, of which they're hyper-focused on men. And it seems like the only way to be part of this club, which seems to be exclusive actually, when you listen to the things that they talk about are, it's their money, it's their homes.

I've had more money than I've ever had, and I've got a home and I do these activities. Well, when you think about the what's undergirding it, you have to be financially capable, you have to have a lot of money to do a lot of the things they talk about. But now when you think about the average woman who's been going through whatever she's going through, many of these women are not gonna be able to go jet set. So can they not be part of the de the Decentering thing? So, and then you move on to the four B movement where they're just kind of like at the point where they're saying, we don't need men.

We're not interested in procreating, we're not interested in securing the needs of the state. We're not interested in anything from men. They're now at the point where they're saying, we don't want you as friends. We don't want any interaction from you whatsoever. And so what I wanted to do is talk about how these movements are becoming harmful because the way the the genders are, are set and it the f off right now, everybody's pissed off.

You can't take something in good faith and then let it ride in good faith. These, these movements get co-opted. Like I said earlier, feminism at its purest was basically meant to like, Hey, look, we're equal. Doesn't mean, I mean, we're, we're different, but there's equality. We want equal rights in terms of, you know, voting and, and owning homes and having a bank account or whatever. But then it's been co-opted by all this other stuff. And now when you look at it, it is got like identity stuff thrown in there.

Like men are, men are women and women are women, and we can't find women. There's a whole situation. but I wanna get back to the Divestment thing. So this is what I think. And I wrote down a few things. Number one, I think that the Divestment portion of that started off being very harmful because what it did was it started off by demonizing, now speaking about the people who look like me, okay? It started demonizing black men, black men. Now for those of you who know me, I don't for men because they've got some mess about them too, but I like to talk to the women because I'm a woman and I wanna have women conversations, right?

The men got their own stuff that they haven't figured out yet. And, and it secondhand embarrassment right now, it's so embarrassing. but I can't fix the men. That's for men to check the men because they're not listening to women anyway, because it's a whole bunch of hate. So men have to check men and women, we have to engage with each other. And there there's gonna be some fighting involved. There's gonna be some loving, hopefully some loving involved too, right? And we're gonna disagree and we're gonna agree, and there's gonna be a whole bunch of shenanigans. But when you talk about, when they were talking about Divestment, what they did was they demonized a whole group of dudes.

Men ain't this, black men don't like black women. Now, there's not to say that there wasn't some thread of truth in there, right? Because even though there are men, black men with black women, there was a lot of colorism and futurism and all kinds of things that was going on continue to go on in the community. All we have to do is look at a, a small subculture of our athletes. Well, what does a rival look like? Or what does, like, look at our entertainers or whatever, what does it mean to arrive?

And who was on your arm? I don't wanna go down that road. So we demonized all of these men. And so now you've got men. Like, first of all, I find it hilarious and you got a whole bunch of men up there creating these stupid podcasts, except for like, well, you know, my podcast is amazing, right? But like, you got these men up here on these stages, can't even convey intelligently what they're really trying to say. They're just sitting up there arguing with women all the time. And I'm like, y'all sit there and talk about women, but I'm like, you're acting like what you think a woman is.

You're acting just like it. It is so embarrassing and so cringeworthy. And like they think they're doing it. They think they're doing it, but nevertheless, it doesn't mean that all the things they say are wrong. But I'm not here to cake for the dudes because they're a mess. So what we did was we had a bunch of women talk about divesting. And what they did was they demonized the men And. they were like, it is just oppressive. And it doesn't mean that some of the stuff that they're saying isn't true, but what they're doing is they're painting with a broad brush, basically all, all the relationships.

So now I'm sitting here like, well, I guess I'm impressed by my husband. And now y'all know I got a whole lot of mouth, like a whole lot. So I just felt like what they did was they painted black relationships, black love relationships as unhealthy, and are there some unhealthy ones? Absolutely. But when you say something over and over and over and everybody says the internet isn't real. And to some extent I agree, but I'm like, wait a second, a whole lot of people are still out here on social media.

Somebody's consuming this content, right? So you've got people saying the same things over and over and over again, and you get these young impressionable minds who are coming out here, men and women listening to the same shenanigans, getting caught up. Like they getting all caught up, caught up. They're like, me, ain't anything. I'm like, you haven't lived long enough. So we demonized them. Then we broad brushed the relationships. Black love is all struggle, love.

I'm like, well, I didn know I was struggle, but it doesn't mean that there isn't a struggle, love component to it, right? But I'm like, heck, it's, it's, everybody's not in a struggle, love situation. But if you put it out here all the time, it sounds like, look, black women, now we're gonna free ourselves. 'cause if you get with that black guy over there, and let me tell you, he's not gonna want you. If he's successful, he's gonna go get Becky with the good hair. And, and, and if he doesn't get her, you're gonna struggle and you're gonna be depressed and he's gonna cheat on you.

This is the message that we're putting out here to these young women. So now this is why I said like that the Divestment movement was harmful. So then it was very dismissive of other realities, very dismissive. So if you tried to counter with like, well, you know what? You are seeing these relationships that are, are not successful. But what if I told you that I've seen many successful relationships? It doesn't mean that people don't go through hard times, but I'm talking about successful relationships.

There's growing pains in relationships. They were very dismissive. They're like, Uhuh, this is why I had to go get Chad. I don't think there's anything wrong with Chad, actually. And, and, and just to be honest, I don't see a problem with dating outside of your race, but there's a caveat. You have to go into it with your eyes wide open. And you both have to recognize that you have these biases. 'cause we live here in the United States. And if you, and then you work through 'em and understand that not everybody is gonna look at your relationship and be altruistic and full of love.

Now, getting back to the Divestment thing, they were saying like, don't be with the black guy. And then they'll tear down relationships. Look what happened with Simone Biles. She was like, she's in love with the Jonathan Owens, I know his name now. Jonathan Owens Owens. This is the thing, and this is what I would say, and I've said it in other videos, were there red flags in some of the things he said? Yep.

But what I don't wanna do is get out here on Jesus's internet and sit there and tear down this relationship. So when I said, when if I make a comment like, well, there was something about her that he really liked, even though that whole interview thing, when I finally listened to, well, the clips or whatever it was, it was full of shenanigans. And people are like, oh, it makes you pick me or whatever, if you agree with that. And I'm like, oh my gosh, there's, there's no winning. So they'll say like, divest from black men because they're gonna do these things.

And then when a black man chooses a woman to buy the way, she was not ambiguous. She was a regular old, regular black woman who I thought was really pretty. But that wasn't good enough because they went down the bunny trail And, they gotten in that man's social media or whatever it was that they found what they found. And they're like, well, he only liked the, the, the, the the non-black woman. I don't know. And I'm just kinda like, but right now he's finding comfort in this black woman right here. This is the one he wants.

And instead of tearing down these relationships and telling you to divest from black men, well wait, well wait a second. Why don't we try to give these young people some tools to be successful? Like, hey, you don't have to put all your information out there for public consumption, because there were hella women who got out there and was like, see, this is why you can't. Oh my goodness. And most of these women were single women. They were gonna sit there. Hold on, let me yell at my daughter for being really loud.

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Speaker 1 (20m 49s): Okay, I'm back. So anyway, they went out like one of the things that we should have been telling them was like, Hey, let me give you some tips. Let's nurture you so that you can be successful. These women would rather tear that young lady down And. they tore that guy a new hind part. And let me tell you something, he kind of sort of deserved it. but nevertheless, I'm like, th that that's not for that. I'm like, that's when they should have stepped aside and just wished them all luck and then provide some constructive criticism. But I'm, I'm going down a bunny trail.

I don't need to go down. So anyway, I feel like the Divestment movement was actually kinda harmful. It was harmful because it wasn't meant to, the way I took it was, it should have been, Hey, don't just stay married to the idea of having to be with a black guy, get married to the I die of being, the idea of being with a guy who rocks with you and loves you and who wants you to win and whatever that means. And you know that maybe you have to deal with this small barrier maybe of race, but there are people out there who are like, look, I don't get all of it, but I'm willing to get to, to work through it and, and, and let's work it out.

but I like you, I've met some of these people. And now look, I know many people are gonna have opinions on that. That's neither here nor there. Argue with yourself. So look, this, that's, I thought that Divestment movement was really harmful. It was discouraging young ladies from finding love within their own community. And then there was all this conversation back and forth because you had the whacked out weirdos the men in in from part of the, the manosphere who was like, they're not gonna want you.

They don't want you. I'm sitting there thinking like, are you kidding me? If you only knew what many of us black women knew because we don't tell you. Okay. They're like, you don't have any options. These are the kind of things that they would say, And, they believed it. And I'm like, okay, this Divestment movement wasn't working, so now we're gonna move past the Divestment movement. I thought the Decentering, this is the thing about the Decentering movement that that's driving me.

I don't feel it's, I don't think they, they know the, the women who are saying this I think the majority of them are just talking. They're just talking because I don't think they get what Decentering men means because their entire conversation is still about men with you're Decentering men. This is what I think you want to show. Especially if I'm gonna say I'm picking on a single woman for a minute, for a minute, because that move, that that video I did like a week, week and a half ago, it set it off on the internet.

Y'all were like in your feelings about what did I even call that video? but yeah, the, the, the single women aren't happy I think that's the one I called it or something like that. I'm like, look, if you're Decentering men, I'm like, does that mean you're centering women? No, I'm just joking. It is a little jokey joke. But look, it was like, okay, single women, if you are upset at the men, why are you, there's little salvos. There's strays that married women were taking.

And I'm like, wait a second. Your whole goal is to share how singleness can be good too, right? Hold on, why is my daughter so loud? So my whole thing was, I felt like single women were getting out there trying to convince the world how, why you shouldn't be with a man.

Okay? And there was a whole lot of, there's, they were attacking marriages and you got the ones who were out here de Decentering men, but they were talking about men. They were like men, men, men, men, men and more men. Men, men, men, men, men. all right? And what I'm saying is if you're gonna decenter men and you're gonna promote singleness, what you wanna do is say, ladies, let me talk to you about why I have found a new level of joy that comes from within and how I am spiritually grounded.

I have found that when I spent time really getting to know myself and love myself, that my anxiety wouldn't, whatever it is, right? That's the stuff that you wanna talk about. What I'm finding is when people say they wanna decenter men, one, it's men, men, men. There's more and more men. Number two, somehow married women end up taking salvos. We we're getting, we're catching strays. And number three, it's more about everyone talking about how since they were single, they get to do all these activities and they've had more money than they've ever had.

So I'm like, okay, but I'm married and combined income. And yes, there was a period of time when I was a stay at home mom, but I'm doing fine. I'm not missing any meals, as you can tell by my, my situation right here, right? I just came back from Puerto Rico in February and you know, I have some other plans, but you know, you usually don't know about them until after I've already completed them. Then you find out about 'em. you know, I'm, I'm just sitting here thinking like that's what I'm hearing.

I'm not hearing about the personal growth, but personal satisfaction, maybe the increased in good health, mental, physical, spiritual, financial. I'm not hearing about how they affected someone, right? I'm not hearing about how they were able to influence someone. I'm hearing I ain't gotta deal with those kids. Who's to say that?

Some women, they, they love serving their family, their children, whatever. They love it. They love it. There's some who really relish being in that role. I'm, I'm somewhere in between. Well, not really, but, but you know, so anyway, when I think about the people who are talking about Decentering, I think actually the Decentering movement actually became harmful because they're promoting separation for men.

Yeah, I got a couple of notes on here. They're promoting separation for men. Not, you know, centering yourself. They're promoting division. There's nuance here. They'll say they're not, but listen, listen to what they're saying. They usually talk about all their negative experiences. They talk about how they like to prioritize their self and their mental health.

And I think that's okay. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. But usually they somehow turn around, start talking about men and men. I hear them promoting, and this is what I'm hearing as far as sentiment. And if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. I've been wrong before, I'll be wrong again. It sounds like they're promoting single hood as the option versus an alternative. And I know it seems like I'm splitting hairs, but I feel like you should be able to just say, look, if you happen to be single, you know what?

Being single can be an amazing state of being. Two, not, you should remain single because these men ain't it. you know what I'm saying? Right? So there's nuance there. I wanna move on. I've seen stuff where people were saying that being in a relationship is a scam. I I, I didn't know I was being scammed. I didn't know I was being scammed. you know, I I, I'm, I'm happy with my husband.

Look, maybe he's playing me and I don't even know it. So it is what it is. Let move on. They're basically saying that marriage has, there's no benefit to being married for women. I think that's interesting. And, they base it off a whole bunch of negative things that have happened in the past or maybe people that they know. And I'm sure there's some data depending on if you understand how data is collected, if you understand how, how to analyze the data and understand the data science, which a lot of people don't understand, but you know, so now they go into this whole thing, you know, about, oh, there's no benefit.

Women are not benefiting from it. And that doesn't mean that what some of the things they're saying aren't true. I want to be clear. 'cause I don't think that women are all have it all wrong. I just think that they're making a broad brush across a lot of things. They're painting women who want to be in relationships as desperate. And I actually disagree with that. I feel like you can be a fully formed woman, independent, autonomous and everything, and still want to be in a relationship.

And I don't think it makes you desperate. Yes, there are desperate women, but wanting companionship and love and to be in a covenant. Why does that make you desperate? Why does it make you desperate? Why is it so terrible to utter those words, to affirm the fact that you're like, you know what, I want to be married, or I want to have children with my husband, or what whatever they painted as desperation.

And, and I have a sneaky suspicion that I think if many of them had that they wouldn't be talking like this. They wouldn't be promoting this because they would have it. Now, let me just say, I recognize that I'm on the other side of the coin, right? I was single once I got married at 32 or 33, didn didn't get married in my twenties. you know what I did? Believe it or not, I was Decentering men.

I was traveling. I was exploring my creativity within my home. Within my mind, I was taking up activities, right? Yes, I had a lucrative job, okay? But, and I had come through some heartache. I was I, I was, my heart was broken. And after all of that, let me move this, I never was like, minute this, I still wanted what I wanted, but I also prioritized some of the things that I've wanted for myself.

I feel like my lips look really matte here. Give myself a little bit of a gloss. I don't know why I'm going through this phase where I'm really liking these like darker red, like reddish kind of lipsticks. But come spring I'll probably be like hot pink or something. I don't know. I'm going through, I'm going through a phase. Anyway, I digress. So anyway, I thought it was really that these, that these centering men, I thought that was harmful actually. Because basically what we did was we stereotyped men as these awful people who a whole bunch of things, right?

And some of it I get, like, honestly, I get the fact that when women say like they want, they, they don't like modern women, but none of these men are traditional, but they want these traditional women. I understand what women are saying and I, I, I'm gonna be honest, I'm right, I'm right there with you sister. I mean, like, I get it, I get that frustration, but to go in on all men. And so I basically feel like when you decenter men, what they're saying is they want separation.

It wasn't about centering yourself, it was more like separation from men. And so it becomes this zero sum game. Zero sum, yeah. I think like what happens is it's like, now we can't deal with you. Which makes sense as I lead into this, my next point or or shortly the four B movement. but I, I just feel like a lot of this talking about what they don't want versus what they want.

This very same arguments that you have for the men who are saying what they don't want in a black woman versus what they want in something else, is the very same thing that I'm hearing when I hear them talk about Divestment and Decentering. And then when you say, what do you want, what do you like? It's like, I like my money, I like my house and my activities. Okay? So what happens if you're a single woman and you don't have a lot of money?

Can they decenter men? Because the way they're talking about Decentering men, it's a lot about their activities and their money in their home. And it's separation from men. It's not about who they are as a person, how they're centering self, how they're trying to grow themselves, et cetera. This is the harm. And what we're doing is we're further creating a divide between this axis. Anyway, let me move on to the four B, getting back to the four B. For those of you who are, you know, catching this at a weird point, the four B movement again is, is came from South Korea and talks about saying no to marriage with men, sex with men, babies with men, and dating men or having boyfriends.

They, it's basically a form of Decentering men. But these women are all about like, let's just be with ourselves, everything for ourselves. And it sounds like they don't want to have men in society. They're like, we don't need you and we're not gonna do anything. You're not gonna use our bodies for procreation. No, you will not use our bodies. This is how they're, they're feeling. And it's, it's making its way here. So when you think about it, I I I just felt like, you know, the, the, the lady, sorry, I wanted to go back.

The ladies in, at least from what I've seen online in South Korea, they're talking about they're tired of having less pay. They're tired of these ridiculous beauty standards or beauty norms. They're tired of a whole bunch of things. I think they were calling the, the abandon the corset movement or whatever movement or something like that. It reminds me of like, what was going on in the sixties or whatever, And, they were like, burn your bra. you know, it's like, okay, burn, burn your bras. But I, I don't know, I think the four B movement is harmful because it's, it's really advocating for people, for women to separate themselves from men.

And so we're seeing this play out, and I don't think the four B movement was the primary reason for what I'm gonna say, but I think it definitely was a contributor as far as now we're seeing in developed nations and in Asian nations, the population decline is radical Korea. South Korea has a population replacement rate of like 0.6, five, 0.7. You're supposed to have a 2.1 birth ratio to women or something like that in order to replace the population.

They're not even at one. China has fallen. The United States is at like 1.65 and it's going backwards. Women are can't, women are saying, look, I can't afford to raise a child at this point because I'm tired. The cost to raise a child is really high and I don't want to deal with the men. So this four B movement, I mean, is basically starting to make its way over here.

I'm at the point where I'm like, is it encouraging like same sex relationships? I mean, because they look, these women clearly are just like not feeling the man. I don't know. So the way I look at it, like the, is like this, I feel like where I was going with it was when I said the Descenter, the Divestment and the four B movement were harmful. I, I feel like the purpose for what they were originally intended for gets co-opted by people who are angry.

And it starts to act like a a a video or verbal manifesto. And going back to, lemme go back to my original manifestos, are those public declarations of principles and intentions, goals issued by a group or individual inspired to invoke a change. It's a bold statement. It's like a rallying cry or a call to arms. I feel like that's what a lot of these movements are becoming manifesto.

They're basically saying, you know what? Let's, let's, let's screw man Ka or whatever it is, right? And I'm, I'm exaggerating. They're like, no more men. you know what, if you're not gonna listen to us, then we are not. And and I understand, but I also think there's a skewed way of of of how to handle it, right? So now there's no room for reconciliation. There's no room for common ground. There's no room for compromise. There's no room for meeting in the middle.

Now, am I saying that women should be in bad relationships? No. Am I saying that women should be in relationships where they're suffering from domestic violence? No. Am I saying that women should engage in having children and be in the, the basically the only one taking care of the child? No. And you know, I, I'm not advocating for that and, and I don't want anybody to go take that and go wrong with it. That's not what I'm saying. But now we're at the point where women are like, I don't wanna deal with you at all. See, with, with the passport bros, they were like, I can't get my way.

I, I have low self-esteem I can't provide. So what I'll do is I'll call you a a a a woman of the night and you're so modern And, they couldn't see their flaws, right? Because these, these guys had these, these blind spots. So what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna go someplace else where they'll put up with these things. But with the, these movements are, they're like separating themselves from men altogether. They don't care where you come from, what you look like. They're like, I don't want to deal with you, period. And that I think is also quite dangerous.

We're building up a hatred. We're building up a hatred. And, and, and, and I feel like I'm repeating myself because I am. But like the battle of the sexist thing is getting out of control. It's out of control. No one likes anyone. No one trusts anyone. And the way I look at it at this point, the only way things are gonna change is gonna start with you. It's gotta be ground grassroots, I. think our youth I think everybody needs to get off of these podcasts and videos, except for mine, of course, because perfect in every way and can practically do no wrong I think you should watch all of my videos, but I think we need to get off of these podcasts.

Definitely these men need to get off of these podcasts. It is so embarrassing seeing all these dudes up there and I just have to swipe now they're up there thinking that they're, they're like dropping knowledge and stuff. And, they sound so stupid. It just seems like Boiler point. Give them a microphone and a couple of rusty couches and they're up there just yammering on about things. And I'm like, oh my gosh, it's so embarrassing. And it's like, I'm like, I'm trying to figure out like, what, what is your value? Like this is what you're talking about over and over again.

These relationship questions over and over again instead of something meaningful. So anyway, that's where I'm at with it. I don't really have anything else to say other than you should go ahead and like this video and then you should go ahead and subscribe. And, they tell all your friends and your aunties and your cousins to go watch this video in every single one of my videos. Binge watch them because they're amazing. all right, have a good one.

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