S4E32 I doubt the tradwife movement has longevity

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Speaker 1 (0s): All right, my bows and bow ties. So luck. I'm sitting here at practice for my daughter, and basically I just wanna say a couple of things real quick. I don't think this tread life movement is gonna last for too long. I, I don't Think, so I don't think it's gonna have longevity. I wrote down a couple of quick notes. They're not well formed, but it was like a quick scribble. Number one, I think reality has to still sink in.

I has to sink in. This is, this is economic, economic reality. The fact of the matter is most men are not capable of raising a family on their salaries alone. I mean, it is what it is. It doesn't make these bad men. It means that in order for these families to be viable, chances are many of these women are going to have to work. So I think what is portrayed out in these internet streets and these social media streets is a glamorized version of what it means to be a tra wife.

For those of you who don't know what a trad wife, it's, it's is, it's a portman do of traditional life. And so what you're seeing out here in these social media streets is basically, and, and not all of them are doing this, but many of them are, are trying to create this throwback to like this 1950s era. They're like, ID idealizing that timeframe. And we all know there was, it wasn't what it was purported to be, but nevertheless, there was this whole push to, to, or movement to glamorize the 1950s.

Now, what I'm saying is this, those women back in the 1950s had a partner that was capable of supporting the family, the, the wife and the, and the children. So they were able to exist in the home where they, they did most of the, they did like all the domestic labor. They were the chef or the cook. They were the maid, they were the teacher or the children.

They were the nurse, you know, they were everything. And so what's happening is, what you're seeing out in these social media streets is this glamorized version of what that looks like from the 1950s. So you see women getting dressed up and, and, and much of what you're gonna see is a whole lot of boob shots, right? They like to make sure that their boobs are like, you know, center to all of this, right? Because what they have to do is they have to be visual. They've got to attract the male gates.

And so you'll see a lot of women with, you know, the boobs are in a whole situation. These women are in dresses and, and full on makeup and hair, cooking a home homemade cereal. And that's not realistic. The fact, fact of the matter is we have economic realities. Just the cost of food alone is really expensive, okay? So it's gonna be really difficult for families to thrive off of one income based off of the economic realities of today.

Clothing is expensive. I mean, even your discount stores like a aero pastel or, or Old Navy or whatever, they're expensive. Target is expensive. My daughter's phone is popping off and it's so annoying. Like these little girls need to stop anyway. So even stores like Target, they're expensive. I mean, like the Cat and Jack, that line expensive. I haven't been in Target in a while. I haven't been in a Walmart in a while, right?

Because I'm just like, everybody wear all your old clothes. The main point I'm making is there are economic realities that are gonna prohibit women from trying to assimilate into this. So-called traditional life, trad life lifestyle, where you are home and you are the homemaker, I think the people who are capable of doing that, generally speaking are upper middle class wealthy women. I would even maybe say middle class, but I'm not so sure.

I'm not so sure I'm middle class even exists. So many of these women, and I'm not talking about edge cases. So if you're, if you're gonna point out an edge case, I'm like, all you're trying to do is basically prove the rule. But from what is being presented online, most of the women look a certain kind of way. They're mostly what I would understand to be non-poor white women who can afford to stay home and take care of their children.

Now, these women are not bad women. Let's be clear. There's nothing wrong with being a traditional wife. I don't think anybody is, is, is complaining about the, the fact that, you know, I I think where, where the, the, the thing lies is there's a little bit of intellectual dishonesty happening because they're trying to promote this lifestyle that this is what taking care of the family looks like, but they're not seeing all the other stuff in between. I, I would suspect that many of these women have help.

I would suspect, suspect many of these women have help. Ultimately, I think that what people are not talking about is the economic realities of many of these women who are pushing the trad rhymes type movement. but yeah, like they're not showing what's happening behind the scenes. They're not showing when this thing is driving me crazy, her phone has these little Snapchats on it, But. anyway, then we move on. I think that one of the things that we need to be aware of is that with women being increasingly educated, I think they understand also the economic realities, right?

So many women recognize that it is vast, that they have some sort of skill. It doesn't have to be a mega skill, but it needs to be some sort of skill where you can actually, sorry, where you can, where you can earn, sorry, somebody was calling in on my phone, but they think I think many of these women who are highly educated recognize that you need to have some sort of skill, some sort of income. And that doesn't necessarily mean that you are like this high earner, but you wanna be able to have the capacity to sustain yourself should something happen, whether you divorce, whether your your significant other gets sick, anything could happen.

I think people who have been educated understand what the complexities are in terms of having agency in yourself, right? So I think because they understand that I think the more educated everyone becomes, they're like, okay, well I need to be able to have something for myself. I need to be able to sustain myself. I need to have agency in myself. Anyway, that's just my thought. What was the other thing? I wrote down a few more things.

I think there's basically this huge culture shift happening right now. And it's not just here in the United States, right? It's happening around the world. Women are no longer aligning themselves as far as value and proximity to men. Women don't want to depend on men. Many women are now no longer desiring marriage. They're not desiring children, they're not desiring being homemakers, I think right now women are more interested in having that autonomy.

So there's this huge culture shift, especially since you've got all these men out here with these, these microphones like yammering about nonsense. A lot of women right now are still turned off. They no longer desire. There are people who don't even want companionship anymore. So I think we're seeing this cultural shift right now where if you're asking for many of these women to be these so-called traditional wives, I'm sure people are gonna say, wait a second, but you're not traditional.

You're not a traditional spouse. You can't support me. What does that mean? Should I get older and I no longer look like the 20 something or the 30 something that you married? I now look like a middle aged woman. you know, what does that mean? How will I sustain myself Moving on I think also too, when we see many of the, the trad wives get out here on these apps, the, the, the picture that they're painting is so unrealistic.

So they're making it seem like these women are waking up every day and they're making these homemade meals every single day. That's not the reality of most homes. Even when, when you're, you're a stay at home mom, many women are not making every single thing from home because the fact of the matter is, if you have children, your life is so full with many of their activities. We have our parents who are living longer. So many of them may have to care for parents.

Many. There's so much that's happening. So even if you stay home with children, many of these women are not making homemade gourmet meals all the time. It's just not realistic. And so I think with this whole, so-called movement I. think those who get it get it. They understand like this is not a realistic portrayal of what a traditional wife would look like anyway. And then lastly, I just wanted to circle back I, think people understand like, it, it doesn't even make sense to put on makeup and curl your hair for making dough.

I'm not sure if I understand that. If everything is done to please the man, see I, think what's not being discussed out in in the social media streets is when you, and when you are in a covenant or you're married, whatever, it's right. You guys are a team. You're a team, and the husband too has to support you. Your sole goal is not just to support your husband and for those people who want to say that this is aligning towards, all right Christian stuff like that.

I, they, the, the people who, who claim to be Christian, they're not even getting it right. Because if you're going to premar counseling, there's that whole triangle that talk about the top of that triangle is God, and on one point is you and on one point is the other, right? And as you grow together in your relationship and you grow in Christ, you're trying to get closer to God and, but you're moving together. Now, there are times when you're not moving at the same pace, right?

you know, but the goal is to try to move together and come together to be more like Christ and put Christ in, you know, whatever. And what I'm, and, and look for those of you who don't believe in, in Christianity, you know that that's between you and what whatever it is that you believe in. The point I'm making is that's not realistic to just make it seem like this woman is there solely to serve her husband. I, I, when I listen to people out here in the social media streets, well a lot of it I can on the stomach, but so much.

So I tend to do a lot of swiping past it I think the biggest thing is I never hear about what the man is gonna do. I never hear them talk about how they're gonna provide. I never hear them talk about how like they desire a real kid, a real relationship with women. I don't think many of these men who are out here on social media, like women, and it's really unfortunate because usually what they I think, they say, this weekly wheel gets the oil. And so much of what we see out here are these dysfunctional men and women who have access to a microphone, a camera, and internet, and they're putting out all this information for public consumption and is, is ridiculous.

The people who are in relatively healthy relationships don't typically put that information, you know, out in the internet. Anyway, I just wanted to say, I don't think this Chad Wis movement is gonna have this lasting, I don't think it's gonna last like long term I think it's kind of like a fad. I think people are looking for something, they wanna idealize something. I, I just think that's where people are at with it.

I think men and women right now collectively are just struggling. They're struggling. So men and women are attacking each other and they're looking to, I don't know, we're looking for anything. Hey, I'm live. Don't come here. Need to get a new mouth on or else I won't be playing. Okay, well put it in your get one outta your bag. Oh, should my book, I don't dunno what she just said. Anyway, my whole big thing is, what was I gonna say?

Oh, anyway, I just feel like men and women are struggling and I don't think that they, they know how to approach this in a balanced way. So I think they're grasping for straws. The people who have the most time are all these single people who don't have to commit to each other and responsibilities, or at least not in general, the people who have all this time to sit here and commit to putting out crazy information, they're clearly not invested in their home lives. Like there are people who, who sit on, on these, these apps for hours and hours, and I don't know how they have the cycles.

I can't even listen for hours and hours and hours on end. I'm usually in the middle of something or accomplishing something and I, I, I just don't have the mental bandwidth, you know, because I'm doing some of the things, let alone all of the, the free cycles to not only talk, but even listen or, you know, or maybe I should have said it backwards. The point, the point I'm making is I feel like men and women are just struggling so much And, they are having a hard time getting, they're, they're having a hard time just on, on, on so many levels.

They're just having a hard time. So they're grasping at straws. They're doing things like, I'm trying to think. They're doing things like getting on these stupid apps and, and, and fighting about things that don't even matter. They're fighting about things that don't even matter. And, and they're, they're, they're getting on, they're getting on these apps and they're talking about nonsense and, and they're just, just abusing each other and it's unhealthy. Anyway, that's all I've got.

Hopefully you guys understood where I was coming from and I'm mentally checking out because I'm watching Dysfunction where my daughter is practicing. Have a good one. Don't forget to subscribe.

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